For everyone who feels like speaking English....

Erna, I'm trying, I'm trying. But it's hard when you're home alone and you want a sandwich... :-(

And Wilbert, I'm afraid you're right (well, you being a physiotherapist you should be right :-D). I had my first physio and surgeon check-up last week and we all concluded I'd been doing too much. Now the surgeon did say he rather sees a patient who tries too hard than one who's too careful, but of course we don't want to aggrevate the situation, and that's what has happened. Like I said to Erna, when you're alone at home, who's there to help with the most simple chores like making a cup of coffee, opening the mail and so on... Anyway, I've been told "there's two occasions you can take your arm out of your sling: when you're showering, and when you're doing your exercises". I'm really trying to stick to that, and often I do type with one hand, but now and then I am a bad girl and type with two hands. Although a lot less than before.
I've been told it can take 6 to 12 months before it will be all healed.

The funny thing is that I had the same operation 11 years ago (well, sort of the same; the surgeon suspects that this time was 2x worse), and I only remember having to wear a straight jacket, and have no recollection at all how I managed, except that every day after my shower I would call my neighbour who would come over and help me put the vest on. Weird hey!

Anyway, the good news is that I can drive again, because I now have one of those knobs that you attached to your steering wheel. Cool! So at least I'm not depending on others anymore for every ride, and that's great.

Wilbert, there seems to be a bit of capsulitis, but wherever I read about it, it is associated with 'adhesive capsulitis', but I don't think I have a frozen shoulder, nor did the surgeon mention that. Can you shine your light on that? If you don't want to do that here, then PM me, maybe? (not that there is a buzz of activity here... :) )

So far, arm back in the bag.... :)

Ireen
 
Capsulitis itself doesn't mean you have a frozen shoulder. Capsulitis adhesiva means that due to the capsulitis your shoulder "kapsel" does tighten due to fiber shortening. With a frozen shoulder this means you have los of movement in specific directions in a specific order.
In your case a "trauma` caused the problem (even if it isn´t a direct trauma but caused by overuse during longer time). Of course you have a capsulitis in some way because you had surgery and a rupture of your labrum. Every injury to tissue courses a -itis in someway, but that is good and nessesary for the healing process. However if you keep on forcing the capsulitis in your case you might develop a consistent capsulitis and that could develop a capsulitis adhesive on the long term (also the main reason to take time for the recovery)
On the other hand the surgeon is ofcourse right when he say´s one should practise the shoulder because by movement the muscle and ligament fibers develop in the right direction ensuring an optimal range of movement afterworths.

Am I making any sence here? (I´m not used to do technical explainations in english!)

Kind regards Wilbert
 
Well Wilbert, isn't this a great oppportunity to practise your work-English! And you're doing very well. I don't think though that we speak of 'fiber shortening' and 'ligament fibers'. If anything, one would speak of 'tissue'(weefsel), and in the last sentence you can even keep it simple by saying "....the muscles and ligaments...."

Are you also aware of the difference between the words 'practise' and 'exercise'?

Anyway, as far as i understand from you, a bit of capsulitis is not abnormal, and can be like an inflammation of tissue (in this case as a reaction to trauma, being the operation), and if i would not do any exercises, then it would be a case of "if you don't use it, you loose it"-stiffness. And i won't let that happen!

Thanks a lot for your explanation :)

I'm sure there must be more members you would be able to practise your work-English on!

Cheers,

irene
 
No thanks Irene,
The problem is I learned everything in Latin(or Dutch) then worked in Gemany for a few years and now trying to get used to the English terms. So it is very easy to get things mixed up. :grin:

Otherwise I am always available for questions or advice

greetz Wilbert
 
:) In stead of "No thanks" you might want to say Not at all or, you're welcome, or no problem, or no worries, etc. But 'No thanks' doesn't exist, except when you're asked if you want a fifth hamburger; then you say 'No, thanks'.....

Darn, and I bet you were thinking 'what shall I say' and then picked the wrong expression... LOL
 
Wilburt and Irene,

I am reading this all with great interest, because I suffer from something that might be related.
I loose the sense of feeling in 1 or 2 fingers in my right hand. It is not there in the morning, but it evolves during the day. I have had a checkup whether the Carpal tunnel was playing up again, but this was not the case. My neurologist ordered an MRI scan, on which nothing out of the ordinary showed except for the normal wear of the disks in my neck.

My chiropractor in the Netherlands told me it is the nerve from my neck to these fingers that runs through a muscle. Due to much endured strain on the muscle (3D cad work and likewise on the computer), it compressed the nerve which runs through this muscle. He treated me for 3 months, but I guess I am still in the healing process. He told me not to look upwards too much (like you do while swimming), cause it squeezes the nerve too. Especially when you have to sit in the same period for prolonged time (on an international flight) it starts to play up heavily. Massage of the shoulder does bring some relief, but it all takes too much time for my sake.

Anyone of you has to contribute anything to this dreadful story? :p

Bart
 
Hi Bart,

For a specialist it is important to know wich two fingers are involved. In general nerves run from your spinal cord to your hand. There are several places in that way that can course the obstruction. If, in your case, a muscle is involved nothing else rests than to stretch the muscle as much as you can and also you can do exercises for your muscle. It is also possible to stretch a nerve but that would be my second option. In your case the tension of the muscle is also related to your work position. Often there are lots of possibilities to change something there to prevend this from happening again. Examples: changing the position of your chair, important is the buro high as well as the screeen high, special keyboards and mouse pads are available nowadays.
Did you try swimming on your back by the way :grin:

Please let me know if you need further explanation

Kind regards Wilbert
 
Bart,

This is why Wilbert is amongst us... :)

I must say though, Wilbert, that my Remedial Massage Therapist checked the stretchability (is that a word?) of several nerves first thing we met, especially the leg related ones. They clearly restricted the movements/stretchability in my legs. Mind you, I imagine that if you have someone to examine you'd check it all during your assessment, right?

Oh, a small note: it's the 'height' of your desk, not the 'high'.

Irene-with-a-red-and-hot-shoulder-with-more-and-other-pain-than-before. Uh ohhh :-(
 
It is standard procedure to start with an overall check and than working towards a specific procedure.
Wether you check the muscles or the nerves first is not always important as long as you check both.
Having shortened nerves towards your legs (or muscles) is a very common thing and does not neccesarily relate to your shoulder problem.

cheers Wilbert
 
@Wilbert:

It's the 2 middle fingers that suffer most. So not the index finger or the thumb. And the pinkie is not affected either. I am doing some stretching excercises, but the funny thing is that I haven't been working since early februari. It seems to come up when I am sitting as well. Which excercises would you suggest?

Bart
 
:-D :-D No Wilbert, you have me laughing now... LOL... I didn't mean that shortened leg nerves would be related to my shoulder problems... Sorry for the confusion, it was just an example. The first 2 sentences of your reply are what I referred to.

Boy, it's easy to have a misunderstanding hey!

Ireen :)
 
Hey peeps,

I'm back again after some absence... and no, didn't end up getting that machine: hubby's got a small (tiny) tear in the tendon in the shoulder. Resting the arm/shoulder should fix it in time. He has some fluid in the shoulder because of the ouch, but that too, should disappear. No sling for him, though, and he hasn't asked me to make his sandwhiches (yet!)  :evil:

Me myself, I get RSI-related pains (computer-work, that's why I'm not at the Forum as often as before), which includes pains in my right hand, shoulder and arm, and a 'cold hand' sort of feeling in the right hand.
I got some stretching excercises for the shoulder from my physio, as well as an excercise where you push your chin back and forward. (Gotta show you: looks so funny!!!) Both really do seem to help, but because of the pressures at work (which cause the rsi-like symptoms) I keep forgetting to do them on a regular basis.

And Bartman: is your pillow ok? Coz I changed mine, and that made a huge difference in pains in the shoulder/neck/arm!

Thanks Eerainuh, for keeping this topic alive! ;)
Cheerio,
Inacar
 
Thanks Eerainuh, for keeping this topic alive!
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Alive and kicking.... But the subject at this point in time is not the most inspiring one.....  It is a bit like those old codgers on 40M telling about their visits to the doctor/hospital or worse. For those who are now wondering what I am talking about: I am a licensed radio amateur (ham radio). Some  "hams" get together on the radio bands that are available to them for regular chats with other hams. And it is especially on 40M (7.060 Mc) that some elderly hams have that chat about their health. Sometimes I listen in for a while to make me feel young again and then tune on and try to find some other youngsters to chat about anything but hospital visits and funerals.....

So may I suggest a change of topic?  :smile:

Ham radio makes the world a lot smaller than it already is. This morning I talked to a guy in Chad, then exchanged greetings with someone in Brazil, had a brief chat with Aki from Japan and ended up talking to another "runaway" Dutchie that is now living in Sarasota FL (USA). I have known that person for donkeys years. I think the first time I met him (on the air) was back in 1974. We met personally for the first time in 1979 in NJ where he had a beautiful place just across the bay from New York. Last time I saw him (he is 84 now) was in Sydney a couple of weeks ago when he disembarked there after a cruise across the Pacific.
I know - you can do it on the internet all day - but some hours of the day there is good short wave radio propagation to W-Europe. That is when I meet some regulars from the Netherlands and some old mates from England. They are always wondering about the drought, the bush fires, the spiders and the snakes..... and I get back at them with the question when they are going to buy their next pair of wooden shoes. The way to get them jealous is telling about the sun and the temperature - especially when there is another gale blowing over there with rain and sleet like last week. "Brass monkeys"  weather there....

My 2p's - Henk
 
Yesterday we got the letter from the ACS saying that Marks skills are assesed to be suitable for migration. That means that we have to do the IELTS all over again and the date is (hopefully) set on the 28th of april.

And because I can use some practice... I'm back. We were waiting for almost two years to get enough working experience and during the waiting I sometimes got a little tired of this forum. But now we're back on track again :)
 
Well, Henk's typing obviously isn't suffering from any physical complaints, and I'm not qualified to judge his mental state... LOL...  When are you buying your train road Henk? :-D

Annemiek, you can chat your little head off here, and I'm glad for you guys that things are looking up.

Inacar, (back in the waiting room of the doctor, sorry Henk... LOL), sorry to hear about your problems. Pain is detrimental for our good mood. I am in a happy mood as this is my second day I could make it without pain killers. Must be a good sign! Now I have to take care not to get too enthousiastic and just continue keeping it easy. Hope you can fix your problems soon!

Over and out... ;-)
 
...your train road...
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  :? :? :? Please explain, Irene? This is outside my passive vocabulary  :grin:

Did you know that you have an active and a passive vocabulary? The passive one is the range of words you recognise and know the meaning of when they are presented to you. The active vocabulary is the range of words you actively use yourself in speaking and writing. An effective way to enlarge your active vocabulary is to do the Target Puzzle in the Sydney Morning Herald:

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[size=20pt]O[/size][size=20pt]A[/size][size=20pt]T[/size]
[size=20pt]N[/size][size=20pt]A[/size][size=20pt]M[/size]

Today's target: 13 words, good; 19 very good; 25 excellent.

Yesterday's solution
argot ergo ergot gale galore gaol garotte gate gear glare gloat glory goal goat goer gore gory grate great greatly grey groat grotty gyrate gyro lager large largo legato ogle ogre orgy rage regal target TETRALOGY toga yoga


Solving the Target Puzzles
See how many words of four letters or more can you make from the letters shown in the grids.

In making a word, each letter must be used once only.

The word must contain the centre letter and there must be at least one nine-letter word in the list.

No plurals or verb forms ending with "s"; no words with initial capitals and no words with a hyphen or apostrophe are permitted. The first word of a phrase is permitted (eg inkjet in inkjet printer).

We've used words in the main body of Chambers 21st Century Dictionary as our reference source.
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Something to do for all the RSI, carpal tunnel and frozen shoulder victims..... :evil:
 
Ahhh, those good old Train Roads, no, they don't make those anymore, and have swapped to Road Trains :)

And I adore word games, I used to do those with my mum. Is this one in the paper version of the newspaper or also online?

I'm going to have a go :)
 
Road Trains
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This one big enough....?​
 
For us, non-truckies, it is :)

Bit sad though seeing your boat (I assume it's yours). We sold ours because we didn't use her enough. She was a lovely 26 foot bay cruiser. We had her stalled in a rack, which of course is great to keep it barnacle-free, but it was also quite expensive, and we just didn't use her enough. We'd done her up, she (we called her 'Karma') had new covers, new upholstery outside and inside, we treated the timber, she looked a million bucks. But a boat that isn't used turns into a drama with nothing but trouble. And that started to happen. So we sold her :-(

Mind you, if we really want to go boating, we'll rent a boat, so we have no problems to deal with; just get your gear in, and off you go and coming back from your trip you just drop it off, no pain. Plus we'd rent a bigger boat, so it also can put up with a few extra knots of wind, as you surely know.

About 5 years ago we rented a house on a canal. Steve couldn't stand the sight of the emptiness at the end of the pontoon, so we bought our first boat then. Often after work we would hop on, with a bottle of bubbles, and go to the bay to see the sun set. Talking about chillin' after work!

Oh well, when we retire we'll make up for it :)

Have a nice day!

Irene
 
You're right Henk, sorry to have bothered people with my pains and aches. Must be getting old. :lol: Feels like it sometimes..
(just thought that my story might be helpful for other computer nerds like me...)

Have fun with your boat and car!

Catchas,
Inacar
 
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