For everyone who feels like speaking English....

I cannot imagine why anyone, expect living (or going to live) in Holland, would like to learn Dutch... What drives your desire to learn it some day?
 
let´s say i'm intensely interested in some "things" that "came" from the Netherlands
and that learning languages is a very important part of my life.

Pretty justifiable, huh?

By the way, can anybody help me again with another little word that came up in my translation of Pratchett?

The word is GUID.
The context is:
"'Guid, guid,' said Rob Anybody, wiping his forehead" 
 
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let´s say i'm intensely interested in some "things" that "came" from the Netherlands
and that learning languages is a very important part of my life.

Pretty justifiable, huh?

By the way, can anybody help me again with another little word that came up in my translation of Pratchett?

The word is GUID.
The context is:
"'Guid, guid,' said Rob Anybody, wiping his forehead" 
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He probably said "gut gut gut" which could be translated as "my oh my" or " ain't it something". It is some sort of country slang, and is derived from: "gottegot"  (my god....). Basically, it is a cry of disbelief.

Hope this serves you?

Bart
 
I think it's more sort of "good"
If you read here , you'll see that the use of the word "guid", seems to resemble "good".

"Good" would translate to dutch as "goed"

(another) Bart
 
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let´s say i'm intensely interested in some "things" that "came" from the Netherlands
and that learning languages is a very important part of my life.

Pretty justifiable, huh?
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I was just interested in the drive for learning Dutch (specifically), as you don't have to justify it for me even a little bit :)
 
Hi Milahashi,

I bet there's a few sitting next to the mailbox; I envision that they have installed their lazy chair there.

Then there's a few who are studying and practising their English (just not here),

There must be a bunch that is working during the day and are too fed up with others to be socialising here, or possibly they are too tired to do so, or to busy doing chores or hobbies.

Then a handful are almost on the plane to Australia.

There are quite a few scattered all over Australia so they have to speak English anyway.

And the rest can maybe tell themselves :)

Alligator!

Irene
 
:lol: :grin:

Some are going online with their X-Box mates  :roll:

Some are playing online poker as this is becoming a new hype in Holland

Some (me  :shock:) just remembered they have two meetings at work
at the same time (ok, only 20 minutes, then call a collegue and ask her
to cover that for you PFEW)

Hi Irene,  everthing fine over there?

Miranda  :smile:
 
Hey Miran,

well, things are fine and not so fine; the weather is great etc etc, but my shoulder is still very sore and I have to wear an immobilizing sling 24/7, except when I have a shower and when I do my exercises (well hm.. might want to call that 'movements'). I sleep an awful lot - with the sling, yes - and I hope that all that sleep will help the recovery, but it will take a loooong time before it's all properly working yet. Not being able to drive is a bugger, as we live on a steep hill.

How are you yourself?

P.S. Putting lollies on the sore spot doesn't help a sh*t, bummer! :-D
 
Hi Irene,
About your shoulder. I don't know what's wrong with it, but my wife got a problem with her shoulder joint - especially in the upper arm region where the biceps and triceps tendons are attached to the bone.  Sometimes she can't just lie on it - that sore.  And there is also restricted movement. Recently there was a guy from QLD in our shopping centre, selling little boxes that could cure "almost everything". I discovered he was just selling TENS boxes and I recommended my wife to try one out. She did and it really seems to help. I had some experience with the positive effects of this gear in my professional past.... So, just an idea....! It does not cure anything but by the way it operates it alleviates pain and negative symptoms and enables you to excersise which in itself will improve the situation on the long term.
 
Hi Irene,

What a bummer!!! So you have to use your immoblilizing sling to help the healing process,
but on the other hand you have to do exercises to keep it from becoming a 'frozen shoulder'.
PFEW!!! I really feel for you, positive thoughts are on the way, .........did you 'catch' them  :up:.

I'm fine, thanks for asking, tomorrow the estate agent is coming over to give us an estimate on
our house and I just told work we are going to make 'the big move'. Reactions were positive,
sad to see me going (yes I like me very much too  :wink: :wink:) but all the best with the move.
I normally have a 1 to 3 months period (don't know the exact name in Englisch for it), something
like 'giving notice' before you can actually quit your job. I put in a request for reducing it to 1 month's
notice. And my direct chef thinks there's no problem with that. So...I'm happy.

@Henk: I've heard more positive results with the 'TENS' boxes. They also use those boxes for
relieving the pain when having contractions (maybe something for Amoz, although she's in hospital
at the moment I read in her '19 February' thread.

Anyway, not being able to drive Irene also has one advantage.....walking up that steep hill you'll get
nicely shaped calves (don't walk too long as the will be bulding instead of just toning your legs  :shock:).
No need of liposuction for you is there!!!!

Take care and I hope your schoulder will be better asap!

Miranda  :smile:
 
"Giving notice" is indeed the right expression. How wonderful that everybody responded so positively, that is truely worth gold. Happy for you!

I'm scanning cyberspace for vibes at the moment, and I do seem to catch something (bzzzzzzz), but I'm passing them on again to Annemiek. She needs them more than I do at the moment :)

But I'll tell you about that hill of ours... No way I'm going to walk it again! Done it, been there. One day we took our late shepard with us, but since then he wasn't so keen on walking anymore! No really, if you drive up that hill, your ears pop! Please don't make me do it, please!!?? LOL

Henk, those TENS (or is it TENSE?, whatever) machines do help muscles, that's correct. I've used it against period pain, and the physiotherapist used it on my shoulder before the op. But - I don't know how technical you are, medical wise - in my case the problem was that the labrum was torn loose for roughly 70%. Now they  usually do grow back together to the tissue they are supposed to be attached to, but seldomly in the proper way, and also not when the damage is so big. So that's what the surgeon did for me. I'll keep it in mind though, about the TENS machine, and see what he says about it. We used to have one but I somehow managed to break it, duh. For the moment I'll stick to ice packs but thanks for the tip. :) Oh, and please send over some patience, that would be good :)

I did find out another positive about wine.... it's a painkiller, yeahhhhhhh!  :drinking:

So far, good night  :sleep: (I actually shouldn't even be typing, but gee, life can be boring if you even can't use a computer!)
 
those TENS (or is it TENSE?, whatever)
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As far as I know it is TENS (Transcutanous Electrical Nerve Stimulation).

The nerve stimulation causes hormone excretion (endorphines) that alleviate the pain. It should never be used on pregnant women, Miranda.

No Irene, I used to be a lawyer but I read medicine for two years before I switched and in my later professional life I had  a lot to do with personal injury claims. So I think I know a little about anatomy and a little about healing processes, pain relief, recuperation and rehabilitation.

If you ask your Health insurer there is a good chance that they'll pay for the TENS machine. We sent the bill to Medibank Private and they paid 70% even without a referral from our GP. We just bought it in the mall where that guy from QLD had set up shop for two days.
 
Thanks for the tip Henk, we'll see how we go. At the moment I'd rather have no shoulder at all, although I that might end up being slightly impractical ;-)
 
Thanks for the tip about the TENS, my husband has this really sore shoulder as well, at the moment, but is having a few scans done (right now, actually) to see what is wrong.
This machine might be a good idea. Does it help with rsi-like symptoms in back and shoulders?

Cheerio!
Inacar
 
Hey Inacar, wouldn't it be better to check this with a physiotherapist? I mean, each case is different, and you wouldn't want to take the risk of doing the wrong thing, would you? Before my shoulder operation a physiotherapist used a TENS machine on my shoulder, but you do have to know exactly where to put the patches.

Just a thought :)

Irene
 
That's true what Irene said. I use also a TENS machine and the doctor told me how to use him.
Take you rest Irene very important.

See you Erna
 
I agree with Irene here!
Being a physiotherapist I know how important it is to get intructed well on devices like TENS.
But if you know how to use it it can be very helpfull (TENS does not heal the injury itself most of the time)
TENS can however have a very pain releasing effect on local nerves (subcutanious).
Don't buy the cheap machines, they are not always correct configured and therefor might make the damage worse.
@ Irene: A Labrum relaese is a serious injury wich will take you quit a while to recover from, be sure you take your time and not force a recovery!

kind regards Wilbert
 
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